II. Prophet Paul Cain – The Myth

Paul Cain - The Myth
Share on facebook
Share on print
Share on email
Share on google
Share on twitter
Share on reddit

Listen to the Podcast!

The Paul Cain Fiasco (2004-2019) – What We Were Told

no resistance
photo by Pixabay

From 2004 to the beginning of 2019, there was a certain narrative handed to the public regarding Paul Cain’s “struggle” with homosexuality and alcoholism. I put “struggle” in quotes because that is the primary term used to describe how Paul dealt with these issues.

The truth is, he didn’t “struggle” with this sin at all. “Struggle” implies resistance and, as we’ll soon find out, resistance was entirely absent from the scene.

We as human beings have the tendency to accept our news piecemeal. We don’t retain information long term, so it’s easy to forget things quickly.

Examining and documenting how and when the news of Paul Cain’s penchant for homosexuality and alcoholism was relayed to the public uncovers how things are handled and covered up by prophetic movement leaders when one of their own is (almost literally) caught with their pants down.

I know this is a brash and abrasive claim, but the proof is in the details. I will be showing you those details in the next few posts.

The truth is that the prophetic faithful were handed a designed narrative from 2004 until Paul’s death in 2019.

That’s 15 years of leading you to believe one thing, while something else was going on behind the scenes.

That’s 15 years of deception.

The “Struggle” That Never Was

As the story goes
photo by Pixabay

What follows is the information that we were allowed to believe between the years 2004 to 2019 along with my commentary on the data given at the time.

In April of 2004, Paul Cain was confronted by Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle and Jack Deere “after they determined he had engaged in a pattern of unbiblical behavior that included heavy drinking and homosexuality.” [1]

Paul initially denied the charges and was unwilling to submit to any kind of restoration process that Rick Joyner and company had put in place.

Then, after Joyner, Bickle and Deere threatened to disfellowship him, Paul conveniently decided to come clean and admit to a “long-term” problem with homosexuality and alcoholism.

On January 31, 2005, Paul issued his apology.

“I have struggled with homosexuality for an extended period of time,” Cain said in his written apology. “I have struggled with alcoholism for an extended period of time. I apologize for denying these matters of truth, rather than readily admitting them. I am ashamed of what I have done to hurt those close to me and for the pain I have caused those who have believed in my ministry.” [1]

I want you to pay attention to the phrase “for an extended period of time.” This infers that it was not an isolated incident or a minor “stumbling,” but a “practice.”

It appears from these words and further corroborating testimony from Rick Joyner himself (we’ll discuss this in the next post) that Paul had been a practicing, habitual homosexual (not to mention alcoholic) for quite some time, while posing as a prophet of God Almighty. We cannot know for sure how far back Paul’s dalliance with these sins went, but it’s possible that this could have been a habit from childhood.

Paul Cain actively “ministered” – he gave “prophetic words” – he gave “words of knowledge” – all the while performing homosexual acts in private. What’s more, when confronted with the issue, he denied it outright and was unwilling to do anything to correct the situation for several months.

It was only when his comrades threatened to oust him – in other words, take away his platform and reputation – that he decided that he’d better do something.

This infers that he was planning on continuing his behavior, even after being confronted. It was the threat of having his power and influence taken from him that caused him to “apologize.”

In this same post from Charisma magazine, Paul Cain said:

“I plan to take a low profile,” Cain said. “I promise to seek immediate help for my problems and submit to leaders in the body of Christ who will supervise my restoration.”

Paul Cain’s Sharply Contested “Restoration”

photo by Pixabay

Suspiciously, Paul Cain chose not to be “restored” by the “prophets” who confronted him (Joyner, Bickle, Deere), but “submitted” to a comparatively unknown ministry run by a guy named David Andrade and a few other, lesser-known “prophets.” [2]

Why would he choose to distance himself from his fellow ministers and go with a ministry full of people he was not as close to? We’ll answer that in the next post.

Paul’s restoration process lasted until April 2007, at which time Paul was considered “restored” by Andrade’s group and resumed public ministry.

Rick Joyner and company contested this restoration, [3] but apparently, Paul and his chosen “restorers” thought that 2 ⅓ years was long enough.

Paul Cain – the man who had a “long-term” problem with homosexuality and alcohol – had had enough therapy and was ready to minister once again.

Three prominent Spirit-filled leaders – Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner and Jack Deere – urged Cain to submit to a specific process of restoration and healing after his dramatic public confession in 2005. But Cain eventually refused their recommendations and was deemed “fully restored” by a somewhat unknown ministry in California.

Because the three men were not familiar with the process Cain underwent, Bickle, Joyner and Deere released a statement last year saying: “We cannot say with confidence that this is a genuine restoration.”

Strader believes Cain’s restoration could be genuine. “Whether or not we agree with the group that restored him is irrelevant. He feels he’s been restored.” [4]

Strader’s quote (taken from an article by Charisma magazine on May 12, 2008) is very telling of the arrogance of many prophets in the prophetic movement.

According to these self-appointed soothsayers, whether or not you agree with them is quite irrelevant. As long as they “feel” that they have been restored, or hold a certain position, or heard “the Word of the Lord,” then that is all that matters.

So here is our initial timeline:

  • April 2004 – Paul Cain is confronted by Joyner, Bickle, and Deere about his homosexuality and alcoholism. Cain rejects the plan for “restoration.”
  • January 2005 – Under the threat of being disfellowshipped, Paul decides to say “I’m sorry” and admit to a long term problem with homosexuality and alcohol. He refuses to go with the restoration plan Rick and company set forth, but goes with Andrade’s bunch.
  • April 2007 – Andrade’s bunch decides Paul is “restored.”

So, you can have a “long term” problem with homosexuality and alcohol and all you have to do is go through 2 ⅓ years of therapy, and then you’re good to go.

. . . if you’re Paul Cain, that is.

Well, that’s not exactly true. Todd Bentley also served a similar short-term sentence for a long-term problem.

It’s actually interesting to note that Paul Cain and Todd Bentley had an interesting encounter right before Bentley took a similar fall. Oh yeah, about that . . .

Let’s Talk About Paul Cain and Todd Bentley

Lies, error and sexual immorality seemed to follow Paul Cain and the Kansas City prophets like the plague.

The famed Lakeland Revival started on April 2, 2008, at Ignited Church (pastored by Stephen Strader whom we quoted above) in Lakeland, Florida.

Even after being confronted with his homosexuality . . . even after a hotly-contested “restoration” by an unknown ministry, in May 2008, Paul Cain turned around and claimed to be “celibate” his entire life.

Maybe I’d better add “mental illness” to the things that follow Paul Cain and the Kansas City prophets.

In the same appearance, on the same date, Paul Cain (obviously relishing being back in the spotlight) imparts his anointing/mantle to Todd Bentley, claiming “Behold Nathaniel, in whom there is no guile!”

The Prophetic Elite Join in the Spotlight

Emboldened by Paul Cain’s prophecy and the Lakeland Revival’s success, leaders in the prophetic movement were quick to grab another moment in the spotlight.

On June 23, 2008, Che’ Ahn, Bill Johnson, Stacey Campbell, John Arnott, Rick Joyner, the late C. Peter Wagner and other alleged prophets surrounded a mostly prone Todd Bentley to “give honor where it’s due” (Bill Johnson – 1st video – 4:30) calling Todd a “well pleasing son,” (Georgian Banov – 2nd video – 6:40) the “firstfruits” (Stacy Campbell – 2nd video – 5:40) and a man who has “walked in a manner worthy of the Lord, pleasing Jesus in every way.” (Che’ Ahn – 1st video – 1:40)

Now, you would expect that, if the proclamations of the prophets were correct . . . if they were really in tune with the Spirit of YHWH, then all of these things would come true, right?

If this were true, at the time of this writing (Feb/March 2019), we would be 11 years into the prophesied “unstoppable revival.”

This “move of God” would be advancing “full force,” with no signs of slowing! The WHOLE WORLD would be “feeling the ripples” of this prophecy and coming to Jesus Christ in droves!

But such was not meant to be.

2 months later – 2 months, people! Todd Bentley filed for separation from his wife, Shonnah, and resigned from the board at Fresh Fire ministries.

Statements from the board read:

“Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff,” and that Todd would “refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.” [5][6]

photo by Pixabay

Now, people may want to jump on me and say, “That’s really unfair, Kevin. You don’t know what was going on behind the scenes!”

[[Sigh]] . . . Look, I get it. I sincerely do.

Marriage and divorce are complex issues with many different caveats and nuances unique to each relationship. To make snap judgments is foolish.

But don’t you think a group of “prophetic elders” would have been able to see that, if they were really hearing from YHWH?

Have we really checked that much of our common sense at the door so that we can keep our idols on their pedestals?

Rick Joyner comes to the Rescue!

Probably embarrassed at having been seen among those who “commissioned” Todd 2 months before the breakdown, and wanting to save face, Rick Joyner started preparing the masses for the resurrection of Todd’s public ministry.

Todd Bentley was used to spark the Lakeland Outpouring, which raised the faith level of much of the body of Christ. Testimonies of healings and miracles from it are now virtually all over the world. When Todd’s marriage failed, he abruptly stopped all ministry and virtually disappeared for almost nine months. In the meantime, his divorce was finalized and he has recently remarried. [7]

So you can leave your wife and children for another woman, be remarried in 9 months and still be considered “God’s man of power for the hour,” to usher in the next great revival?

How foolish can we be? Obviously, very foolish.

Todd was put back into “limited” ministry in January of 2010, less than two years after he abandoned his wife and kids. [8]

Let’s pay special attention to just how quick this turn of events took place and how quick we allowed the false prophets to pull the wool over our eyes.

  • May 2008 – Paul Cain imparts his “anointing” to Todd Bentley – declaring that he is like Nathanael – “a man without guile.”
  • June 2008 – “Apostles” gather around Bentley and declare that he is going to be God’s man to usher in an unstoppable, world-changing revival.
  • August 2008 – Todd Bentley leaves his wife and kids for another woman,
  • March 2009 – Todd remarries.
  • January 2010 – Todd is released back into ministry.

All of this went down within a 1 year and 9 month timespan.

Now, let’s combine the timeframes of Todd Bentley and Paul Cain.

  • April 2004 – Paul Cain is confronted by Joyner, Bickle, and Deere about his homosexuality and alcoholism. Cain rejects the plan for “restoration.”
  • January 2005 – Under the threat of being disfellowshipped, Paul decides to say “I’m sorry” and admit to a long term problem with homosexuality and alcohol. He refuses to go with the restoration plan Rick and company set forth, but goes with Andrade’s bunch.
  • April 2007 – Andrade’s bunch decides Paul is “restored.”
  • April 2008 – Lakeland Revival begins.
  • May 2008 – Paul Cain imparts his “anointing” to Todd Bentley – declaring that he is like Nathanael – “a man without guile.”
  • June 2008 – “Apostles” gather around Bentley and declare that he is going to be God’s man to usher in an unstoppable, world-changing revival.
  • August 2008 – Todd Bentley leaves his wife and kids for another woman.
  • March 2009 – Todd remarries.
  • January 2010 – Todd is released back into ministry.

So, just from what we were allowed to know about Paul Cain (and Todd Bentley), we can come up with some rather intriguing conclusions.

  • Lies and deception
    photo by Pixabay

    If you are a prophet caught in sin and have enough popularity, you don’t really have to stress. Just take a little vacation and come back in a few years.

  • People will go to extremes to keep their prophetic idols on the shelf.
  • Prophets maintain their integrity even when what they say doesn’t come to pass.
  • Prophets will scramble to protect their reputations. They don’t want anyone to know that they really don’t have that much discernment.

This can all be derived from the story that we were told. As if this weren’t enough, in the next post, things are really going to get crazy.

Stay tuned.


Share on facebook
Share on print
Share on email
Share on google
Share on twitter
Share on reddit

Series: Prophet Paul Cain - The Cover-Up

More to explorer

VI. Prophet Paul Cain – The Madness

Unfortunately, this tale of perversion and pretense is not confined to the late “prophet,” Paul Cain. There are many self-appointed “spokesmen for God” out there who are acting as enablers or participants in the most grievous types of sin. And our leaders open wide the door of the churches so that these wolves can feed off of you: body, soul and spirit.

Paul Cain - the Method

V. Prophet Paul Cain – The Method

Considering all of the evidence of the Paul Cain cover-up, it is easy to see how lies and manipulation of the Word of God play a huge part in fooling the masses. But some of the blame lies in our inability to think for ourselves and look past our own unsustainable doctrine. This “gap” in our reasoning allows for the modern-day prophet to come in and build an empire at the expense of our willful ignorance.

Paul Cain - The MakeOver

IV. Prophet Paul Cain – The Makeover

After confessing to having knowledge of Paul Cain’s predatorial tendencies for the past 15 years, Rick Joyner attempts to salvage Paul’s reputation as a prophet, as well as his own reputation, by appealing to commonly taught misunderstandings of spiritual gifts and spiritual father figures.

14 replies on “II. Prophet Paul Cain – The Myth”

  1. Thanks for getting this out in segments . I think people need that in order to digest and ponder . Having had a ring-side seat to the Lakeland debacle (although I never went to the meetings) I kept up with it because so many around me were going . The Strader family have had their own issues long before Bentley . Great pod-casting !

  2. Big Surprise🙄 The so called prophets by themselves and others r liars and lovers of self and 💰 Their time in the Charismatic🤑 and Prophetic or Pathetic time is coming to a close . What new deception is coming 😲
    It will look good feel good so u will worship its leaders and give them ur money 💰
    Ask OUR FATHER to show u the truth IN JESUS NAME 🎆

  3. and phony prophets is why I don’t listen to any of them. a true prophet will always come with a message of ‘forgiveness’ and ‘get right with God, or else.’ a true prophet will be hated because of the message he brings.

  4. It makes me shudder with shame that I ever believed these people. Please don’t stop doing what you’re doing, Kevin. I pray others will listen.

  5. I kind of forgot about the weirdness of Todd Bentley. When I saw him on these videos, I could only think of a rabid version of the Lucky Charms Leprechaun. Really disturbing.

    What truly bothers me are the people still falling hook, line and sinker, though you try to share with them the deception in this movement. Paul (the apostle, not Cain), said: “But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant”.

    I think I’m about to ruffle some more feathers by forwarding this link.

  6. WOW Kevin! The deception that people fall for by following these folks, is mind boggling! Great job exposing all this garbage. My heart breaks for those I love that are still involved in, and fall for this type of heresy!! Like you, we too came out of this; and I am MORE than thankful ABBA showed us what it was, we were into!! Keep up the good work!

  7. As a believer who thought that everyone knew more than me, I lapped it all up like a thirsty sailor. I think I can honestly say I have seen it all at my age. Finally one day I said, I need to think for myself as what I am hearing is off. I began a quest for truth that has led me deep into Torah (to catch up) but still maintaining a renewed covenant approach to how we should operate after Yahusha came.

    I never knew about Paul Cain, but I did go to a place in WA that Todd spoke at. I was completely unimpressed as he was panning for gold. It is not surprising that these showman are able to get away with what they do. They are good and even great creating a show that titillates the soul. Mostly I believe the charismatic movement is a bust even after having been in it for many years. I have seen miracles of healing and deliverance so I don’t want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. But now at my advanced age, I find more pleasure in singing the Shema with bride than going to a light show at a sunday church.

    Kevin, it is not wrong to point out where we are going wrong. Keep it up.

    1. LOL … thanks man, I needed that. I just got done reading a long email reaming me out for this very thing!
      Ps … I just posted part 3 of this series, check it out if you want. Thanks again!

  8. When they say its not about the love 💘of self and money 💰its about the love 💘 of self and 💰👍

  9. I used to pray for revival now I pray for repentance. Repentance is the key element that has become obsolete within the body of Christ. Your articles reaffirm what I believe to be truth. The church by and large has become blind, deaf and dumb. (Dumb in the sense of ignorant) We have replaced The Savior and His word with actors and scripts. The place you are walking, Kevin can and probably will be a rather lonely place because many don’t want the truth. They are like spoiled children demanding candy and recess. Recess will soon end and the sweet taste of deception will become very bitter when the Lord of Glory appears. Thank you for your efforts, stand strong, prayers for you and your family.

  10. They have charismatic personalities but no Holy Spirit. A Holy Spirit filled person will not do these things in the first place. The true Holy Spirit is difficult to find in this age. Those tingles people feel in church are not the Holy Spirit. They are spirits for sure but they are not the “Holy Spirit”. My wife and I attended a Benny Hinn convention. We sat next to the front and Benny threw his hands out in our direction. Every person near the front fell, maybe a hundred except 2. That 2 still standing was my wife and I. He threw some kind of spirit but it wasn’t the “Holy Spirit”. Jesus personally baptized me when I was 38 years old in a parking lot in Santa Ana, California similar to meeting Apostle Paul. It was like fire went into my head and out my toes, it was not just a tingle. These people are all false prophets and many are enabled by demons and fallen angels, beware.

  11. I’m curious as to why you refer to Mike Bickle as a “prophet.” He’s never called himself a prophet nor has anyone in his ministry.

    It seems that you want to call him a “prophet” in order to call him a false prophet for being wrong about something.

    If I called you a “prophet” and then found something you said that was wrong (I’m sure when you worked with Elijah List you said many wrong things), would I be justified in calling you a false prophet?

    I don’t personally think that would be justified, but it is what you do when it comes to Mike Bickle. Again, he’s never called himself a prophet nor hinted that he has any title.

    If you’d like to make your arguments I’d be happy to have a conversation with you. I know Mike personally and have known him all my life🙂

    1. A person is known by his company and, if I was still supportive of the Elijah List, you would probably be right in calling me a false prophet. But I’ve come out against the Elijah List, the prophetic movement and everything it stands for.

      Whether or not Bickle has referred to himself as a prophet or not is not really the thrust of this article (or series), nor is it a subject that really matters as far as the series is concerned. He’s obviously supportive of the movement and considers himself an authority on topics such as prophets, prophecy, etc or he wouldn’t have written books such as “Growing in the Prophetic.”

      The facts are what they are. Bickle may be a “nice guy” … I’m not saying he isn’t, but a key characteristic of a false prophet is that they (and others) think that they are sheep. But these cover-ups, where “prophetic leaders” try to cover for people Paul Cain (and now the Joyner/Bentley fiasco) need to stop.

Comments are closed.