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  1. Bonnie McIntyre

    The fact that we have been deceived by the Church is one of the hardest things to over come for me. I had thought for years that the great deception would come from the outside. It has stunned me to know that this deception is already here. I only realized this in seeking answers about christmas and easter. The impact that church leaders are out right lying to their congregations sent me reeling : even though, I had been hurt by the church and had questions. Thankyou for being open about your walk and giving others a place to share. Bonnie McIntyre

    • Mary Eileen Mullen

      Interestingly, I used to belong to a “Christian” denomination that eschewed the word “Christian” for the exact reasons you mentioned. We always referred to ourselves as disciples because that is what the followers of Yeshua were called in scripture. Obviously, I am no longer part of them, as I now identify as Natsarim, but at least they got some things right. I just pray that they get over the “Torah is nailed to the Cross” delusion.
      Mashiach also doesn’t just apply to Yeshua. Kings and prophets were also mashiachs (annointed ones.) Yeshua has a special title of HaMashiach (THE Annointed One.) Calling ourselves “Messianic” doesn’t neccessarily mean we are talking about believing that Yeshua is THE Annointed One. It just means we believe there is supposed to be a messiah who saves us. Many traditional Jews are in this position, and are rightly called “Messianic Jews.”
      The Natsarim specifically believe that Yeshua is HaMashiach, and follow what He taught (Torah.)

  2. Drue Mc Laughlin

    Dear Kevin..What a wonderful presentation of historical interpretive claptrap…you have excelled yourself!..in this you no doubt reflect your many years of bondage to the Elijah List, and carry on that legacy,with faulty analysis as you take on the “mantle” and “run” when not being sent.

    • Excellent! Arrogant… religious, presumptuous, condescending and insulting all in one package. Why, Drue, your comments embody the very spirit I knew I would be coming against! This is great! Keep reading … if this post ticks you off, the following posts are sure to enrage! Who knows? Maybe something will prick your heart and you’ll wake up!

  3. Rich Kelley

    Kevin
    You told us to think about this scripture so I did.

    James 4:17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin. (NKJV)

    James 4:14 So then, anyone who knows the right thing to do and fails to do it is committing sin. (CJB)

    Today if you don’t know you won’t be held accountable is a common excuse for sin. The NKJV saying to “Him” it is sin wasn’t translated that way so that the new modern live like the world Christian would have an excuse. The “My Jesus” syndrome that is going around seeks out any and all scripture that allows personal thoughts and feelings to rule the day. The “my god is ok your god is ok” attitude stems from the idea that every ones thoughts matter to God. I’m not saying God doesn’t care about us, but the care is that we know the truth not what we want to believe.

    There has been many definition changes along the way to get to where we are today and in the grand scheme of things words are foundationally important. It destroys those houses built on sand. I believe that in every believer there is a storm coming and foundations will be shook. What words really mean is a good place to start.

    Rich

  4. Charles

    Christians should forget what they think Paul said in Acts and his various letters, read what Yeshua (there is no letter in Hebrew for the letter J ). Matthew 15 v 21-28, within the context of this story, verse 24. He answered, “I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel. Not to the Canaanite woman, not to the Romans,Greeks or Europeans, certainly he did not mention Americans. Only to Israel.

    • Rich Kelley

      One must be cautious when singling out a statement.

      John 4:39-43 Many of the Samaritans of that village believed in him because of the testimony of the women who declared, “HE told me everything that I ever did!” When the Samaritans arrived at the well, they begged him to stay with them, so he abode there TWO days. Many more believed because of Yeshua’s own words, and they said to the woman, “Now we believe, not because of what you said but because we have heard him ourselves. We know truly that this is the Messiah, the redeemer of the world.” Now after TWO days, Yeshua departed from Sh’khem and went into Galilee.

      Yeshua came for the lost children of Israel yet I can find no scriptural reference that He ever turned away anyone that came to Him. Don’t forget that because Yeshua was lifted up now all men can be drawn unto Him, not just Israel.

      • Mary Eileen Mullen

        That “Samaritan” woman was very likely an Israelite. Not all of the Northern Israelites left Israel. Many were left behind. Samaria was the name of the House of Israel’s capital, and also used as a name for the general area.
        As to what Yeshua told the “Samaritan” woman, it is thought that He was making a proclamation of the House of Israel’s (Ephraim’s) unfaithfulness to YHWH, talking about Israel’s “husbands”. Notice that she didn’t seem particularly bothered by what He said, but it showed that He was a prophet. She actually ran into town and told everybody. Also, the Greek does not say that He told her everything “that she did.” It says He told her everything.
        This story in no way contradicts Yeshua’s charge to go only to the lost sheep of Israel. The Canaanite woman begged in her humility and was astute enough to realize that many Israelites would turn down what Yeshua offered, and she would be glad to take what they refused. Yeshua granted her wish because of her amazing faith, but He did not seek her out. She sought Him out.

  5. Charles

    The article hits the nail on the head, from the top leaders of the Christian Church down to your pastor all read from the same hymn sheet. I would point out though that some of the bible verses that you quote are really bad translations, Stern’s Complete Jewish Bible is much nearer to the true meaning.

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