According to Kim Clement, it appears that God wants to topple “two massive leaders” before Christmas. Here’s an excerpt from the Elijah List article:
Prophesied on November 26, 2011 – From The Den:
Opening of Broadcast: “I wanted to chat with you about a few things – teach you about angels because I told you – this is going to be a week of visitations and truly it has been, and you’re going to find out that between now and Christmas big things are going to happen, especially the toppling of two massive leaders that I believe God wants down before Christmas and around this season, and that’s Iran and Syria. So just watch what’s going to be happening in the next few weeks.”
Let me be the first to say that I am all for the “toppling” of the Iranian and Syrian regimes, but I think Kim has put himself out on a limb here …. again.
I wanted to bring this out because I believe it’s time for us to start holding our “prophets” accountable for their words. Not to be “mean spirited” about it, but this needs to stop.
- Are we going to continue to listen to these people just because we like their personality or the sound of their “pretty music”?
- Are we going to continue to hold our “modern day prophets” in high regard when their “prophecy fulfillment” track record is terrible?
- Are we really that gullible? …. Or is it because we love our ears scratched?
Hey, if Kim Clement’s prophecy comes true, I will be the first to say/write publicly, “Congratulations, you heard from God!” I DO NOT have anything against Him, personally. But if it does NOT happen, it was a false prophecy, and we owe it to ourselves to remember and not sweep it under the rug.
Mark your calendars, Body of Christ. Know the difference between True and false prophets and act accordingly.
Blessings & Peace,
Kevin Kleint
Email: kevin@honorofkings.org
1) Calling attention to what someone is teaching is not persecuting them.
2) pointing out what one believes to be the logical conclusion of another’s teachings and practices is not persecuting them.
… 3) Taking strong objection, even to the point of demonstrating emotion and using forceful language and occasional rhetoric devices, to another’s teachings is not persecuting them.
4) Warning others that they may be better off avoiding the teachings of certain ministers is not persecuting these ministers
Hello Kevin,
Totally agree, and not just about Kim Clement. Errrh, I used to go to his meetings with a friend, when he had them in Pasadena. Always, he had the front seats reserved for those of his “partners” of course he has special names for them, at different levels of pay plans. lol, But the highest paying partners had the “front seats.”
I went through one of Chuck Pierces prophecies with a friend, close to a year ago, line by line, and it was so cloudy, and alusive on many things, it gave me a headache. In this particular prophesy, there was no exalting of Jesus, or God the Father, it was all about the people, and how powerful they would be. (again, and this is a theme with many of them.)
James 2
Beware of Personal Favoritism
1 My brethren, do not hold the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with partiality. 2 For if there should come into your assembly a man with gold rings, in fine apparel, and there should also come in a poor man in filthy clothes, 3 and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, “You sit here in a good place,” and say to the poor man, “You stand there,” or, “Sit here at my footstool,” 4 have you not shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts?
Well … it’s after the 25th, and nothing has happened in either Iran or Syria. So what does that mean? It looks like Kim’s a false prophet. I know I’m probably preaching to the choir on this (with the exception of Sunshine, possibly), but we need to not sweep this under the rug. If you know people who are on the fence with this, here we have documented proof. Print this out, forward in an email … whatever you like. This is NOT about destroying a man …. it’s about warning the sheep. Wake up Body of Christ! You’re not meant to be gullible … but Wise as Serpents.
Well…….. Did we miss something???? It saddens me to see that there is so little accountability in the post modern church of America.
Watched a show on History Channel about the Klan and how they recruited openly in the protestant churches in the 1920′s seems to be lots of goats in America, just sayin.
Didn’t he specify the two as Syria and Iran – or did I misread it?
No! You read it completely accurate … so Kim Jong Il doesn’t count as one of “the toppled”. I need to pay more attention to my own writing, haha!
Well, it’s December 19th, 2011 – Kim Jong Il died … that’s one! Hmmm …. I wonder who will be next (if any)?
Re: Sandra says:
December 7, 2011 at 3:48 am
In Kim Clements’ last book, I apologize I can’t remember the name of it, he stated that as a child he was taken to a fortune teller and was told he would be famous. He never renounced in any way, shape or form the occultic practice of divination or fortune telling in the book. Never said any kind of word to refute it. Makes me wonder if that’s how he gets his prophecies. Btw, I threw the book out. I’ll go onto say that I took everyone of his tapes, cds, teaching tapes, books and all and threw them out. When I did I felt something break off of me. I felt led of the Lord to do some house cleaning and get rid of certain ministers things I had brought and accumulated.
WELL, that explains a LOT…….Most of today’s “prophets” are simply ex-New Agers, etc., that still carry their familiar spirits, spirits of divination, etc………..
Jackie Yearling, praise God, the Lord was emphasizing those same verses from Isaiah to me back in August of this year!!!! For a whole week, that was the theme He kept before me! Thanks for sharing that.
Sunshine spends a LOT of time & space defending a guy who has proven himself to be an ego-stroking, attention-seeking false prophet since the mid-1990′s……SAD………so many are so conditioned & brainwashed to call correction “unloving” and “condemning”…….alas, sound Christian thinking has died in America………..
Is HE going to be one of the leaders to be toppled?????? And the other, Todd Bentley????? If so, then YAY, I’m all for it!!!!!!! We could all do with the peace & quiet that comes when hype-bearers are muzzled…….
1″If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ 3you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him.
Deuteronomy 13:1-4
If the Body would only heed these words, false ministries couldn’t stay in business!
Well, I don’t follow Kim Clements; always had an uneasy/uncomfortable feeling about him. I will say though that the Holy Spirit informed me several months ago of the toppling of high profile people who have lifted themselves up or have been lifted up by the people (they are and have become idols).
He said we will see this happen as we enter into 2012 and thereafter. He spoke this 2 me from Isaiah 2:2,4,7-22. To encapsulate, Holy Spirit said the lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one (and everything) that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low. And upon all the cedars of Lebanon that are high and lifted up…and upon all the high mountains and upon all the hills that are lifted up…and upon every high tower and every fenced wall and pleasant pictures…
And the IDOLS(people and things) He shall utterly destroy.
Though He did not give me any specific names, He did say Civic/Political Shepherds (Leaders), as well as some Spiritual Shepherds, would be among the idols who fall. He told me this (about the Civic & Spiritual Leaders) this morning when He took me to Jeremiah 23. Civic/Political Leaders are a “type of Pastor” as they are responsible for the lives of the people they govern, just as a spiritual pastor is responsible for the flock. When Shepherds/Pastors/Leaders make “fleshly” decisions that cause innocent ppl to be scattered, driven away from their homes/land, placed in danger of losing their life and/or livelihood, God is not pleased. And He will bring swift justice 2 those leaders on behalf of the ppl. He says 2 those Civic/Political/Spiritual Leaders….Woe be unto them that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture…therefore, He says, He is against the pastors that feed my people…. Pls read for yourself.
I’ve never spoken out b4 when the Holy Spirit has revealed things 2 me for fear of being wrong. But I’ve come 2 the conclusion that if I believe He said it, then I must speak it. I can only say what the Word says and the Word did not give me any specific names nor were specific names revealed 2 me. So, as stated above, we shall see if the Holy Spirit did indeed speak.
Jackie, thank you for your humility in presenting this word. It’s refreshing to me.
I think we need to not be so critical against this Godly man Kim Clement. Yes I understand that the Lord warns the us the Church of false prophets & teachers, but He also says that if we Judge than we will be judge accordingly. Don’t you think we should lift up Kim in prayer instead of wasting time trying to rare him down the Lord doesn’t need our help if this man comes to deceive the Lord will do the exposing bringing the dark to the light but in the mean time can’t we lift Kim up in Prayer instead of condemning him. The comment that was made about Kim going to a fortune teller when he was little. You have no right to say Kim never renounced that from his life your not God your not all knowing so before you make such a statement be careful with your loose words. When we are alone with our Abba Father no one knows what we are talking to Him about so how could you say Kim never renounced that. My Spirit is quenched from all this backbitting and He wants it to stop. We should be interceding for our Nation and for the Prophets that the Lord has raised up and for the false prophets He has warned us about that we would walk in the spirit and keep our eyes on the Lord and our ears tuned with the Spirit of God instead of wasting this precious time we have left to share the Gospel with the lost instead of talking down a man of God and lift him up in prayer that the Lord would use him in a mighty way to give God the Glory and Kim would be strengthened in the Lord from these kind of darts that come from the body of Christ. I pray that the Lord would forgive the ones who speak death over this Godly man and his family. When one is hurt in the body we all hurt. Lord your will be done bring your correction upon your church and forgive our Nation Lord. Lord you say in your Word if just one would come in repentance and turn from our wicked ways you than would come and heal our land. Lord have Mercy upon us and our Nation I would ask for forgive for the ones who speak death over Kim Lord that you would cover him with your blood and that no weapon that would try and raise against him Lord, will not prosper against him or his family and Lord it’s by your Spirit your servant speaks Lord. Have Mercy Lord. I ask in the name of Jesus. Let us have a heart of repentance not a critical or rebellious spirit your not coming back for that church and your a God of second chances and I thank you in advance Lord for the mighty things that are already happening and what you will brink to the light Lord I thank you for your faithfulness I follow you Lord not no man it’s by your spirit that we will know and I thank you for leaving us our teacher the Holyspirit. Continue to teach me and keep me Lord for these days ahead will be a wake up call for the church their will be a great shake in the church.The Lord is coming for a church without spot and blemish. Think about will you they way you speak is that the example He left us NO then why continue to bite like sharks against a mighty man of God? My pray is that we can come together in prayer and lift Kim up instead of tarring him down. We need to examine our hearts church and ask the Lord do we have any wicked or evil thing in us. I just want to share this scripture Matthew 10:26:27,28
Sunshine, I can’t speak for others …. but for me, I’m not condemning the guy. If what he says is true and these two rulers get toppled, great! But we have for too long allowed people to stand in our pulpits and “prophesy” with absolutely no standard and no accountability. Often, this is done under the whole “judge not” philosophy that you mentioned at the start of your post. As the Body of Christ, we really need to take this passage into perspective, because the misapplication of it is literally killing us. I don’t have time write now to create an entire post (although I feel one coming on), but look up “judge”, “judgement” and all those terms in the bible. You’ll find that judging sin, false prophets and other “killers” are part of a Believer’s walk. I addressed it in my “Elijah List” posts, but from reading your opinion above, I’m not sure you’ll take too kindly to it. Study “judgement” in the Word … then come back and read the EL posts. Peace to you.
the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests rule at their direction; my people love to have it so, but what will you do when the end comes? Jeremiah 5:31
“My people love to have it so ….” Isn’t that the Truth? May our ears only be scratched by the black and white Truth of the Word, and nothing else!
In Kim Clements’ last book, I apologize I can’t remember the name of it, he stated that as a child he was taken to a fortune teller and was told he would be famous. He never renounced in any way, shape or form the occultic practice of divination or fortune telling in the book. Never said any kind of word to refute it. Makes me wonder if that’s how he gets his prophecies. Btw, I threw the book out. I’ll go onto say that I took everyone of his tapes, cds, teaching tapes, books and all and threw them out. When I did I felt something break off of me. I felt led of the Lord to do some house cleaning and get rid of certain ministers things I had brought and accumulated.
Hi Sandra, God’s been talking to me about doing some “house cleaning” as well. I still have boxes of stuff that I know I’ll never read/listen to, but yet they sit there. I think it’s bonfire time!
God bless you brother. I know what you mean. I wanted to burn mine, but where I live it’s not allowed. I might add, I used to be a big Kim Clement fan and I had 3 dreams about him that were not good. I woke up and realized the Lord was trying to tell me something. Blessings to you Kevin.
It won’t matter because that follow him don’t keep score, and Rabbi Stevie will still be hawking his wares on the EL.
That is so true, Ron. Someone posted on the HOK Facebook page “How many times does a prophet have to prophesy falsely before he is considered a ‘False Prophet’” …. to which I would answer “When his ‘profit-ability’ declines”
I’m with you, we’ll see. I remember when the beautiful Beirut was destroyed in the Syrian invasion back in the early ’80s. If Syria goes down It wouldn’t surprise me, they’ve sat on those people too long. As far as Iran, I suspect they’ll hang around.
Going on Clements’ past history though, I’ll play the percentages and say he’s wrong on both counts.
Digrieze
He could have outside inside information in the natural. I just do not listen to him. I may have waited until after the holidays to publish this, but I am not criticizing, for I have spoken or written some words lately that maybe should not have been said. I know I spoke some this morning that did not need to be spoken. My spirit, just does not witness with that of Kim Clement.