The Harlot Church and God’s Perfect Word

perfect-wordAs we study God’s Word, we must remember …. His Word is infallible and perfect.

Our translations, however, are not – including the KJV (and I use the KJV most of the time, so don’t think I’m picking on KJV lovers).

Our study tools are not infallible – the concordances, bible dictionaries and commentaries. They were all written by men who may have been really smart, but it is doubtful whether or not they were inspired by the Holy Spirit.

The perceptions and “notes” of those who are called the “Church Fathers” are not infallible either. Most were heavily influenced by the catholic church, even in the midst of their hatred for it and their commendable zeal for publishing the Word of God.

That same influence permeates the Protestant churches today.

Lastly, and perhaps the MOST important of all, OUR perceptions are not infallible either. We have inherited so many lies from our fathers, that it’s difficult to know where to start. The lens through which we read the Word is severely tainted by these lies.

But God, speaking through the prophet, Jeremiah, gave a Promise to the nation of Israel concerning us, who desire Truth in these Last Days.

Jeremiah 16:19-21

“O LORD, my strength and my fortress,
My refuge in the day of affliction,
The Gentiles shall come to You
From the ends of the earth and say,
‘Surely our fathers have inherited lies,
Worthlessness and unprofitable things.’

Will a man make gods for himself,
Which are not gods?

‘Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know,
I will cause them to know
My hand and My might;
And they shall know that My name is the LORD.'”

What I’m trying to say is that the True Berean should pray for the Spirit of Truth to reveal things to them, and then be submissive enough to “go against the grain” when the Truth of the Word clashes with the church culture of the day.

Because, believe me, the more you follow what the Word of God REALLY says, the more you will find yourself opposed by the mainstream church.

It’s going to happen …. count on it.

Selah.

For the Truth,

Kevin Kleint
Email: kevinkleint@outlook.com

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  1. Suzie says

    May I step into the conversation regarding Easter for a moment. Easter, the pagan spring ritual celebrated by the Romans, is the correct word used in its place in Acts. Luke, who wrote the Book of Acts as far as we know, was recording the time of Peter’s arrest and incarceration, as being at about the time the spring ritual/celebration was to begin. This celebration, probably in the same month as Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread, or at least near to it, was nothing more than a point of time referenced by Luke. Jews and those saved by then would have understood this. I happen to think that the Strong’s Concordance (ref. 3957 in italics) is in error calling “Easter”, “Passover”, since all Herbraic New Testament translations that I have read do not once record Acts 12:4 as “Passover”, and I believe they would have if, in fact, it had been Passover. I believe that Peter’s arrest was near the time of one of the largest heathen gentile festivals to be celebrated at that time; that being Easter (Ashtar, the goddess of Spring/fertility and all things Easter: rabbits, eggs, etc.). Our Americanized festivals/celebrations have strange sounding names to foreigners, but many locations in the world celebrate their festivals in the same month as ours referring to them by very different names for very different celebrations. Passover (Pascha) is NOT Easter. Easter is NOT Passover….not even celebrated in like manner.

    • says

      I completely agree with you that Easter is not Passover and vice versa, however I must disagree with your analysis. To say that you believe the translations (however many they are) is to say that you believe the translators over the original manuscripts. Someone wrote “pascha” in the Greek manuscript of Acts 12:4 … that’s the word for “Passover” not “Easter.” The word “Pascha” appears in the NT 29 times … 28 of those times it is translated “Passover.”

      http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3957&t=KJV

      Unless you can show me an entry that predates the concordance where they use another word, I’m gonna have to stick with ‘pascha’ = Passover

      Blessings to you and yours …

  2. Doris says

    Dear Kevin,
    thank you for your comments (there is no “reply-button”, so I will start a new “post”).

    Well, concerning “God writing the KJV”… I thinks that depends how everyone looks at it. For you, the KJV is not “Holy Spirit inspired”, for me it is… Let me explain, what I mean: The whole scirpture is Holy Spirit inspired. (See 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness). The KJV has a richness and depth/profoundness, that other bible versions have not. For me (maybe thats only a personal thing), the KJV is “living”:
    For me, God has written the KJV in the sense of, that HE watched over it as the translation was done and the Holy Spirit helped/guided the translators, to get it right. That is, what I believe with all of my heart.
    For me, the KJV is the pure word of God.

    I believe, that when God says in:
    Psalms 119:160 Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
    and John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

    that HE really means what HE says in that verses.

    Concerning the word “Passover”: You don’t have to read the whole thread – what I wanted to say was in my post from June 30, 2014 at 8:44 pm and I think it is good explained there.. According to Lev. 23,5-6 it couldn’t have been Passover.
    Sorry, but I think your concordance is wrong – or let me put it that way: I, myself, believe more the explanation in the bible, than the explanation of men (concordance).
    :-)

    Anyway, I respect your viewpoints and those of the others and want to thank you all for the nice discussion. For me, I have said everything, that was important for me to say and will disengage myself from this “is the KJV right or not” discussion.
    Everyone has to choose and believe for themselves.

    Kevin, I like your articles very much. All of them are very interesting and many have helped me. So, keep up writing articles.
    Looking forward to read your next ones….

    Much blessings,
    Doris

  3. Jeanne Theunissen says

    I quit going to church several months ago, because the church I was going to is heavily involved in the modern prophetic movement. I am thankful to you and your teaching regarding false prophets. I am now studying on my own, and unfortunately, I AM alone in doing this, because my husband is not a Christian. Most churches today have compromised on the inerrancy of Scripture, especially when it comes to Genesis. I may have fallen away from the church, but I have not fallen away from God.

  4. John the Baptist the 2nd says

    Having discovered that self-called ‘ religious leaders’ had removed Our’s and Christ’s, Father and God’s name, YAHWEH, from the word well over 6800 times, I was shocked and horrified. No longer. The ‘great wisdom’ and presumptive arrogance of mortals to improve upon and correct the Holy Spirit’s work to fit and create their false dogma and doctrine has known no boundaries. I sometimes am the bearer of the bad news that an inerrant translation of the Word, is at this time, non-existent on planet earth. The good news I bear, is that one can still enjoy fellowship with Yahweh and Immanuel and enjoy walking in the power of the Holy Spirit. Or not. Although errant translation of the word goes deeper than most are aware, The power of Yahweh can and does go, infinitely deeper. HalleluYah.

      • John the Baptist the 2nd says

        By study. Most translations have a ‘disclaimer’ in thier opening pages that states the translators substituted either the word LORD or GOD in capitol letters were ever the tetragrammaton was found. The tetragrammaton translates ‘YHWH’. There are no vowels in original language. The Holy Spirit used Our Father’s and Christ’s Father’s name profusely. The Holy Spirit was not operating in error in doing so. The presumptive arrogance of ‘learned men’, including the jews, for whatever ‘good reasonings’ their ‘wise minds’ came up with stand without merit before the Most High God. Who do mere men think they are to change what the Holy Spirit has wrought. The fact remains that they did so.

        In studying and reading the book of letters, it is my profound privilege to state -read YAHWEH’s name where it rightfully belongs, including the places where Immanuel quotes the first testament. It can be your privilege also- or not. This privilege has been removed to all Catholic adherrants by ‘edict’ of a pope and their wise men quite some time ago. They are no longer permitted to use the Most High God’s name either in song or speech. To me, it seems to be quite fitting that they are no longer allowed the privilege. They love the traditions of their ‘wise , learned and holy’ men so. Let them continue to do so.

  5. PaulaSouthworth says

    Thank you for this post. My old pastor was horrified when I told him we were “home” churching. He couldn’t understand and thought we were falling away, because we left the church. Praise God, we’ve all grown in our walk with the Lord. Not being under even the tiniest ( if there is a tiny one) false teaching opens your eyes. It’s all a work of God. Glory to the God and Father of our Lord Christ Jesus. To Him be the praise.

  6. Anindita says

    Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.

    2 Corinthians 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 5 casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

    1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

    Hi Kevin, You have mentioned correctly that today the entire ‘Christianity’ is somewhere or another influenced by mostly what is called ‘wrong’ being the work of Satan. However, I still feel that the Lord knows the heart and he reveals his TRUTH to all who seeks HIM diligently. No doubt even I tell my family to detach from the ‘church’ organization as I feel it is a kind of slow poisoning our mind even without our knowledge. Instead it is better to meditate on the WORD to get TRUTH revealed and not to forget to live the life of CHRIST as he lived and so did the disciples.

  7. Doris says

    Good post Kevin… But I have to disagree on the part concerning the bible. God is true, HIS word is true. HIS word is the bible. There is (as far as I know) not one single verse in the whole bible, where it is written, that there are mistakes in it. Gods word is not corrupte. God has presevered His word through the Ages (Textus Receptus: KJV, Luther/Schlachter)

    • says

      Feel free to disagree Doris, but there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Even the translations disagree with each other, so how can they all be right and yet say different things?

      • Doris says

        Well, I think it depends which bibles you compare with each others. When you compare a bible, which is based on the Alexandrian Manuscripts with a bible which is based on Textus Receptus, you will find lots of differences. But for me, it only shows, that there is a real one and a counterfeit. I don’t know, if it is allowed to post links here (if not, please feel free to edit my post and delete the links!) but I would like to recommend some links:

        Here is a short summary concerning the manuscripts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wJR1de-9qg

        A very good and deep study has made Mike Hoggard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D6oqquct5Q&list=PL3423ACB811F99CA2&index=1

        • says

          Thanks Doris, I’ll check those links out! I’m always up for learning ….

          So, in your learning, what texts are taken from the Textus Receptus. I’ve found that most are taken from the Latin Vulgate, which has quite a few errors.

          BTW – to clarify – I DO believe that the original texts were Divinely Inspired and infallible. It’s just that we’ve come a LOOOONG way since then.

          • Doris says

            Well, I’m from Austria, so I read in german the “Schlachter bible” which is translated from the Textus Receptus and in english I read the KJV. There is a good summary (don’t know if it is complete) where it is shown, which verses have been changed in most bible Versions…. for example here a comparison between NIV and KJV: http://www.searchthescriptures.com/newsletters/foundations.htm

            http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/m-m.html

            When you look at it, you can see, that mostly the changes have been made concerning Jesus…

            The question is, who would be interested in reducing the Information in the bible itself concerning Jesus, the Godhead, etc and therfore creating different bible Versions…

            In the very, very past, there was only one bible version. In english the KJV, in german the old Luther, etc. Those Versions are still available today…. So, God has preserved His word. He is faithful and true.

          • Jeanne Theunissen says

            Hi Doris,

            Actually, the KJV was not the first English translation of the Bible. It was simply the first LEGAL one. The Geneva Bible predates it by about 50 years, and that is the version that the Pilgrims brought to America with them on the Mayflower when they left England to escape religious persecution.

            Before this, John Wycliffe translated the Bible into English in the late 1300s, but the only manuscript he had to work with was the Latin Vulgate. Later, William Tyndale worked on an English translation alongside Luther, who was translating it into German. Tyndale was later burned at the stake for his defiance of the RCC.

      • sonja says

        Hi Kevin,

        Good post!!

        Might I pose a question: if the KJV is so accurate and infallible, according to some, how come it uses the word “unicorn”, “unicorns”; and worst of all the word “Easter”, as seen in Acts 12:4?

        Even the NIV says “Passover”, and NOT unicorn(s)

        Easter is a pagan festival, and always has been . . . what is it doing in the Bible, the Word of GOD!?

        This was not celebrated by the Jewish people!!

        “Unicorn(s)” is seen in Numbers 23:22, 24:8; Deuteronomy 33:17; Isaiah 34:7; Psalm 22:21; 29:6; 92:10; Job 39:9-10. Acts 12:4, (KJV) re word “Easter” [The imprisoning of Peter]

        4) And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

        Acts 12:4, (NIV)

        4) After arresting him, he put him in prison, handing him over to be guarded by four squads of four soldiers each. Herod intended to bring him out for public trial after the Passover.

        Let it be noted, other mainstream Bibles, i.e. NIV, NKJV, Amplified, Complete Jewish Bible use the words; “ox”, “wild ox” and “oxen”, instead of “unicorn”, “unicorns”. And those same aforementioned versions say, “Passover” not “Easter”. [The CJB says, "Pesach", meaning Passover.]

        • Doris says

          Hi Sonja,
          I don’t wanna have a “fight” over the bible. I just wanted to state, that I believe, that the KJV is 100% right in every little detail. If you cannot/will not/do not believe that,… well, it’s okay with me.

          Nevertheless, let me try to answer your questions: Concerning the word “Easter”: [Quote from http://forums.carm.org/vbb/showthread.php?142233-Do-Pagans-Worship-Easter-or-Passover-Musings-on-Acts-12-4: The word "Easter" has been incorrectly translated "Passover" in all modern Bible versions. Only the trustworthy authorized King James Bible renders the proper word, "Easter." How do I know this? The Bible evidences it. Notice again in the passage of Acts 12:1-4 that King Herod killed James. When he saw that it pleased the Jews, Herod also had Peter arrested. Notice that Herod took Peter DURING the DAYS OF UNLEAVENED BREAD and was going to bring him forth to the people AFTER Easter.

          The Old Testament teaches that the DAY OF PASSOVER started the FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD. Notice in the following Scripture that the Day Of Passover occurred on the 14th day of the first month, but the Feast Of Unleavened Bread began on the 15th day of the month...

          "In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's Passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread." (Leviticus 23:5,6)

          So we learn from this Old Testament Scripture that the day of Passover fell on the 14th day of the first month, and then the "FEAST of UNLEAVENED BREAD" began upon the 15th day of the first month.

          The days of unleavened bread came AFTER Passover! Acts 12:3 tells us that Peter was apprehended DURING the "days of unleavened bread." This means that the day of Passover had ALREADY occurred. "Easter" could not have been Passover, because Passover occurs BEFORE the days of unleavened bread. Passover had come and gone. Herod decided to bring Peter forth AFTER Easter.]

          Concerning the unicorn: Why not….why should this word be wrong? We don’t have an exact description of an unicorn in the bible like we have concerning Leviathan in Job. So, we don’t know exactly how it looks like. We only have our imagination… It could have been a horse with a horn but it is also possible, that it was maybe a kind of a dinosaur with a huge horn. But even when it was a horse with a horn, so what… In Revelation there are horses mentioned in the heavens. Or the different descriptions of the Cherub angels in eg. Ezekiel. God is creative. If the KJV is mentioning a unicorn, than I simply believe that there was/is a being in God’s creation called unicorn.

          I know I may sound silly to you, but for me the KJV is right in every word. For me, it is God’s word and God is true and cannot lie. God does not make mistakes – He never had, He never does, He never will. Because God does not change! HE is the same, yesterday, today and forever.

          Blessings,
          Doris

          • says

            Hi Doris, I’ll agree with you regarding the unicorn and the possibility of (for lack of a better term) “bizarre” creatures being alive back in bible times.

            As far as your statement goes regarding Passover and God directly writing the KJV, you’re incorrect.

            God didn’t write the KJV … nor did King James for that matter, he merely authorized it. And the translators who wrote it were fallible men. There is no proof of being “Holy Spirit inspired” anywhere.

            As far as “Easter” being incorrectly translated as Passover … the BLB Concordance says the greek word is [G3957] “pascha” which is directly related to the Passover feast, not the pagan-inspired “Easter”.

            http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G3957&t=KJV

            I’ll be the first to admit that the concordances are not “divinely inspired” … but until you can give me a more reliable source, I’m sticking with that definition.

            All the best.

          • says

            … and I tried to look at that thread … respectfully, there’s no way I’m going through the whole thing, there’s simply not enough time. If you can give me a short, concise reason for believing it’s Easter, I’ll consider it.

          • Emily Atteberry says

            The Word of YHVH is the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings. The TaNaK if you will. The Word of YHVH is “And thus YHVH spoke unto Moshe” these are Yah’s Words. The KJV is not correct and certainly not 100% correct. Check out the history of the translation, and the agenda behind it, yes there is an agenda.

            We and I include myself here, need to be able to understand the Written Word in the language and context it was written. This is why at best, a good Hebrew dictionary is a vital tool especially since we Westerners interpret thru our Western mindset. Best yet is to have a Hebrew scholar study and translate from the original language/text to English that we can understand. We folks miss a lot by not knowing the language of our Heavenly Father and His people.

            Shalom

    • says

      I agree with Doris. As soon as we say there are mistakes in the Bible, then we can’t trust one word of it. How could we know beyond doubt which words of the Bible are true and which are false? No, the Word of God is without error. I like the KJV because it’s a literal translation and I’m not getting a mixture of God’s divinely inspired words along with the words of over-emotional men. Just read 1 Thes 2:13…the Word of God was written by men but it’s the Word of God, not the word of men. It is “of God”.

      If anyone ‘feels’ he’s getting a message from the Spirit of God, he’d better check that message out with the Bible, because if it’s not in there, he can’t know it’s ‘of God’. Evil deceivers from the beginning of time have deceived so many just because those ‘many’ haven’t bothered to read the Bible for themselves so they can know the difference. How are they to know what God thinks about anything? Many people just want to ‘get a word’ from the Lord the lazy way, by ignoring God’s Word and expecting some ‘spirit’ to guide them rightly. That’s pretty dangerous. The real ‘Spirit’ is in the Bible, the Spirit of God, and he’s behind every word written.

      • says

        Hi Jane, I want to encourage you to dig deeper … while I LOVE the KJV, it is far from flawless. Don’t be intimidated by researching the Hebrew/Greek meaning of words, the culture of the nation of Israel at the time the original manuscripts were written, as well as church history. Put it all together … it’s F-U-N to do this. Where we fall short in our understanding, God’s Grace will make up the difference … but once something is revealed to us, we are responsible to make the necessary changes.

        This is the Honor Of Kings … searching it out and applying it! It will change your life!

        • says

          Kevin, I don’t object to anyone digging deeper by studying the Greek and Hebrew, especially the Greek as it doesn’t have so many varied definitions of one word. But simply reading God’s Word is God’s expectation I believe.

          I cannot believe there there are any ‘substantive’ errors in the Word (God) and still trust it to tell me the truth. If there’s some human error in the lesser points (i.e. grammar?), so be it. But I must know that I can trust God (the Word) to lead me into his truth, not lies. As for the ‘fun’ of digging deeper…that’s for the younger than me and I used to spend many hours doing it. But now, I am weary and enjoy just the simplicity of reading and listening to the Bible being read.

          TIP: The “Word of Promise” audio Bible App is the best investment I’ve ever made in a Bible tool. Someone has put this together with different men and women reading the Bible from beginning to end and the voice of God is just unbelievably awesome! It really does make the Bible come to life. You can ‘read along’ with your own Bible as well. It is done in the New King James Version (NKJV). Just for fun, if anyone does get this App, let it read Hosea to you first. You’ll love it. When I started listening, I started at the beginning of Genesis and literally listened till the end. Took me about 45 days I think. I just can’t recommend this more, especially since so many that are maybe not prone to reading the Bible may happily let it be read to them. This isn’t a cheap App, but once you have it, you’ll have it for every day listening to God forever.

          • John the Baptist the 2nd says

            Is this the tip that allows you to continue to lie to children concerning ‘Santa Claus’ and enjoy it in direct contradiction to the word that commands us to not lie to one another, because you are weary. In no way does the word make allowance for such behavior to children.. The Holy Spirit empowers us to not grow weary in the presentation of Truth and the searching of it out. It is his power that despite physical age enables us. I know of where I speak. Perhaps if you called upon Yahweh and honored his commands your strength would be renewed. But then again , that is just one of his promises, and you are not permitted the privilege . Call upon his name and be renewed – or don’t and stay weary.