My Elijah List Experience
- Elijah List Intro: Prelude to My Story
- Elijah List 1: In the Beginning
- Elijah List 2: First Impressions Crumble
- Elijah List 3: My Experience with Todd Bentley
- Elijah List 4: Dismantling the Wall
- Elijah List 5: Mortar in the Wall
- Elijah List 6: Wicked Roots
- Elijah List 7: Lack of Discernment Has a Price
- Elijah List 8: The Next Generation
- Elijah List 9: My Way Home
- Elijah List 10: Post-Prophetic Rehab – How to Get Back On Track
The hard truth is today’s false prophets and their followers boast of great prophetic insights, but actually have little or no discernment at all.
During my 7 years working for the Elijah List (and my 5 years at the Vineyard), I had so many encounters with people influenced by witchcraft (to varying degrees), pornography and the homosexual spirit, and yet NOTHING was said or done about it. As I said before, witches attended these conferences and church services, leaving unconvicted and unsaved. People with homosexual spirits and/or admitted pornography addictions were allowed to give “prophetic words” from the pulpit, unchallenged.
That is sin, people.
Another Broken Dream
Around 2004, I was invited by the late Jill Austin to attend a conference at Gateway Church in Los Angeles (with Jill, David Ruis and Shawn Bolz). This church was right on Santa Monica Boulevard and provided food, shower and discipling services to the homeless, prostitutes and drug addicts. Having a call to minister to people on the street, I was VERY excited to be able to be at this event.
Santa Monica Boulevard is known to some as “the Boulevard of Broken Dreams”, and I believe that’s an understatement. The destitution and emptiness of that street impacted me more than what I saw in Uganda. Cross dressers, prostitutes, gang-bangers, drunks and drug addicts were everywhere, and not just at night … they were in broad daylight. My heart just broke at the vacant look in their eyes … they were just empty shells. I couldn’t wait to meet the people who were in charge of meeting the needs of these lost souls.
When I met the pastor and the leadership team, I noticed that they were really well dressed and (honestly) quite effeminate. I did my best not to draw conclusions about the people because not everyone has a redneck background like I have. After all, some guys fit into the whole “metro sexual” stereotype, and I figured that if Jill Austin approved of them, well then certainly I should too.
The conference itself was confusing, interesting and chaotic. David Ruis was playing techno-type worship music and it attracted the people from outside the church. As the cross dressers, druggies, etc. filtered in, they saw all of the “already saved/prophetic” people dancing and worshiping … and then an interesting dynamic took place. Many demons manifested, and a lot of the unsaved started “worshiping” with the prophetic crowd, but honestly and sadly, I don’t remember any deliverance or salvation taking place.
Nonetheless, for all of its shortcomings, what I saw at that time was a church actually engaging the world around them and I just “KNEW” that God wanted me to be down there with them. When I got home, I told my wife (in tears) that I had found our ministry home. We began to make preparations to move to Los Angeles.
Two weeks later, I received an email from Jill’s associate saying that the pastor (and leadership team) were publicly confronted by someone in the congregation. I was right in my initial assessment of them. They were all participating homosexuals – both with each other and with others outside their “team”. The pastor ended up stepping down from his position, his wife left him (yes, he was married to a woman) and the church crumbled. (Note: David Ruis was NOT part of the church leadership team, just a guest worship leader. He was not participating in the sin.)
I was really upset about this. The name of Jesus was (once again) tarnished in the eyes of those who needed Him so desperately. I will never forget what I saw on the Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
After this incident, I really started to question the discernment of the prophets. I really liked Jill (who has since passed away) as a person, but if she (and other prophetic people) couldn’t see something that should have been so obvious, how could I trust their insight at all?
I’ll probably sound like I’m profiling here, but a homosexual demon (in a man or a woman) is one of the most obvious demons to recognize, and yet if you take just a small glimpse at some of these prophetic people, you will see them comfortable and unchallenged … even among the prophets themselves.
Flabbergasted in Georgia
I was invited to speak at a conference in Georgia with Chad Taylor and a few “lower level” prophets. After the conference, I sat across a table from two of these prophets (I won’t reveal their names because I don’t know where they stand these days) and they looked me in the eye and said, “If two people of the same sex love each other and want to get married, I honestly have NO PROBLEM with that.” I told them that there is no way that they can name the Name of Jesus, preach His Righteousness and Holiness, and adhere to that kind of garbage. I left Georgia very angry and disappointed about that situation.
How can someone agree with this homosexual spirit? How can someone with a prophetic gifting be unable (or maybe unwilling) to recognize it?
It comes back to lack of discernment.
Witchcraft at the Elijah List
The spirit of witchcraft can be recognized by a number of different MO’s (methods of operation), but in order to stay on topic, I will refrain from explaining each one. However, one thing is certain in every situation … it is devious and usually remains “under the radar” until one with discernment comes along and calls it out into the open, binds the spirit and then casts it out in the name of Jesus. Because this was never done in this next circumstance, I can only explain the following situation by telling you what happened to me, from my perspective. I will leave it to you to draw your own conclusions.
A woman came on staff to answer phones, and within a month was elevated to be Steve’s assistant manager and more-or-less in charge of the office while he was gone. A member of the Elijah List leadership told me that people from her prior church wrote Steve many letters, warning him against this woman, some saying that she operated in manipulation and witchcraft, others accusing her outright of being a witch. Despite the warnings, they were ignored and she was hired on anyways.
For the first couple years, I was unaware of these warnings, and honestly, I was quite taken with the lady. When my wife got sick, she actually came to my house and cleaned my hardwood floors on her hands and knees. This was extremely humbling for me, and I thought for sure that this woman was a saint.
She and I developed a “friendship” for about a year and a half. She used to tell me things like how she recognized “God’s anointing” on my life and how we were going to work together on prophetic projects in the future. She kind of fawned on me like a little brother and was always quick to smile and give a hug.
My wife, on the other hand, had a different perspective. Throughout this time, she continued to get sicker and sicker; and the evil presence in my house would sometimes become almost “tangible”. My wife told me, “Kevin, I don’t trust her. She is a bad person!” For quite some time, I told my wife, “Honey, you’re wrong, you just don’t understand her … you don’t know her like I do!”
Well, it turns out my wife was right.
I have only had a couple times where a spirit has actually materialized in front of my face; this was one of those times. One morning I was waking up, and at the foot of my bed I saw a spirit being. I can’t really explain what it looked like … the air was just “denser”. Anyways, the spirit being turned its face to me, and I recognized the woman’s face!
I said out loud, “OK, I know who you are now. I renounce any relationship or soul tie that I may have with you. Now I bind you in the name of Jesus … Get out of my house!”
The spirit left immediately and the atmosphere in the house actually changed!
Well, you would think that this incident would be enough to convince me, and it was starting to do so, but when I got to work that day and saw this person, she would not say anything to me, would not smile at me, she would barely even look at me. It happened the VERY DAY I renounced my relationship with her … and she has barely said anything to me since.
Soon after, this woman became very commanding in her personality, and a couple of the weaker-willed women from our office immediately fell in line and followed her around as one would follow a queen … carrying her bags, fetching her coffee, etc. The whole office knew about it when this person had a bad day, this drama was almost routine.
Although the Elijah List already had an operations manager, there were frequent power struggles between the woman and the other manager. Enough authority had been delegated to this woman to where she could cause a lot of division and other issues. Many of my co-workers would get one order from the operations manager and the opposite from the woman. Needless to say, this created a very chaotic atmosphere.
As we all know, hindsight is 20/20. There were other signs that I should have recognized, but, like Steve, I too was blinded by this woman’s influence. Looking back, what stands out the most to me was, when she would talk to me (and others) about her intimacy with the Holy Spirit, her words and her body language inferred something much more than just a spiritual connection. I know that sounds pretty foul, but that’s exactly what was portrayed.
Anyways, she was eventually laid off from Elijah List after I quit. But Steve is still suffering to this day from weakness and a malady that the doctors cannot explain, and I’m convinced that it was because of the relationship with this woman and the spirits that accompanied her.
For the Love of the Search,
Kevin Kleint
Email: kevin@honorofkings.org
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Hi Kevin,
I can absolutely relate to your story, in the past years God has opened my eyes to the deception in the “church” and though at a different level, I´ve experienced similar situations. Unfortuantely this is happening worldwide (I´m in Argentina) and incredibly sincere christian´s poor reactions to biblical truth and poor discernment are too. It´s comforting to know that God is waking up his body and that one is not alone. As time passes I can see even more clear and as I receive a greater revelation of Christ thru prayer, the Bible and worship, the confussion, questions and fuzziness I used to have towards this conterfeit “christian” movements are vanishing. The pattern I have noticed is that whenever God is not in the picture, meaning that when something is demonic or of the flesh, SENSUALITY is always present (in a smaller or bigger scale) , it is a MAYOR red flag. Notice how the mystics are always relating everything to feelings and touch and emotions, everything to them is sensorial. Notice how false doctrine always lead to sexual sin, perversion, affeminism, homosexuality. Notice how manipulation and witchcraft is always related to sensuality. Col 2:23; Eph 4:19; 2 Peter 2:18;Ezekiel 33:31. So whenever something in appeareance is ok and fellow christians just can´t get enough of it, this is one of those things I check for. There´s a hundred more things to write about, just my two cents. God bless!
Let me just say… WHAT ON EARTH?!? A witch? Huh? Who appeared to you? This is like, out of some fantasy novel.
Correction again (my appologies): it was Bob Jones and Ivan.
I have been thinking a lot lately and wondering about the whole advent of *personal prophetic words*, and *prayer ministry*. I came into the gospel in the early seventies, before any of this became common place in charismatic circles. After a sermon, at the end of a service, we would go to the altar or into the *prayer room* to meet with God ourselves and to let Him deal with us/ speak to us, and help us regarding what was being spoken to our hearts. It was rare for anyone to touch someone or lay hands on someone to do any kind of *prayer ministry*. We learned how to meet with God ourselves and to hear what He was saying. We didn’t look to people as mediators…(I am beginning to think some of this stuff is making people into mediators…people always looking *for a word* thru some person or another) It’s not that there is no place for it, but in the biblical context we see *Confess your faults one to another and pray for one another that you may be healed* They prayed for the baptism of the HS by the laying on of hands, and may have commissioned those being send out that way as well. Seems to me we have taken this WAY too far, and we are losing or have lost our ability to simply walk and talk with God, except via some prophetic list, or a ministry team or ???
We need to get back to reality and abandon this fluff and lean to hear from God. *For there is ONE mediator between God and man, the man Jesus Christ*…and *truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ*.
So what do you think/know about Chad Taylor? I really hope it wasn’t him that made the statement about homosexuals.
Hi Gregg,
I’ve actually had more interaction with Chad than with Todd Bentley. Chad wasn’t the one who made the statements about homosexuals, but he was very upset that I wrote this piece of the story, probably because I mentioned his name. I’m not going to post what I think of him publicly, but I do know that he participates and even defends the whole “prophetic” movement. I’ll leave it to you to discern the rest … trust your discernment.
Many blessings, Kevin
I know he wrote a very good book “Cry of the Harvest”. I have attended a few of his meetings and had a word spoken over me that hasn’t come to pass although it could but I feel it was spoken more as an immediate thing….no biggie though. I was involved with the Vinyard in the early 90′s and started being exposed to the things of the spirit. It didn’t take long to learn that the same manifestation wasn’t always coming from the same spirit though. I also attended a few other churches that welcomed the “prophetic movement” once we had Kris Vallotin come speak. Some years later I added him to my Facebook and some of his posts on there left e scratching my head…lol. Anyhow I found myself in in that fog you have mentioned wondering and questioning my own ability to hear from God. I think we all want to hear from him and some will create a word or manifestation out of our flesh because it is what we come to expect every time we gather together. I now attend a church that is spirit filled but doesn’t push prophecy or manifestations. I am thankful you wrote this and pray that it will open the eyes of some of those who are lost in the deception.
soooo today at church our pastor talks about repentance and the watered down buddy Jesus thats preached theses days. I read the piece on that same day i read this. Then he makes the statement about seeiing more prophetic words and other oves of God in the church. I now know my part is to pray over these words so what has happened with the prophetic movement doesn’t happen in our church as well.
Kevin…. What you’re seeing going on with Steve and others ” Judgement coming to the pulpits” There has been a line in the sand drawn! As for Chad Taylor….. Well keep your distance and allow no man to lay hands on you suddenly and speak words over you! That’s all I’ll say about that other than I knew not long after I friended Chad and started checking into his ministry that something wasn’t right. He’s a false prophet just as all the others in the Elijah list…. Pastor David Wilkerson and JSM Ministry speaks on these weird manifestations going around these days all in the name of Jesus. Green minty smelling feathers, glitter, oils in palms, gold teeth, Emma the angel. God have mercy on these souls because they will pay a higher price for leading people astray!
The whole Emma thing was pretty weird…I remember Todd Bentley coming to the church I was attending, and talking about how Paul Cain and Jim Goll had asked him if he had met “Emma” yet. Tood explained that soon after, he had seen this “angel”, and described her as a gorgeous woman, both old and young, who would walk around and put gold coins into people’s hands. This did not sit right with me, as I knew that holy angels of the Bible (i.e. who serve only Yaweh) do NOT look like women! The description of Emma made this demon sound like a real “hottie”… and with the gold to boot… my conclusion is that this demon knew how to appeal to the LUST OF THE EYES, THE LUST OF THE FLESH, AND THE PRIDE OF LIFE (As in Eve’s encounter with the serpent/Satan in the Garden of Eden) Oh! And by the way, the name EMMA-O refers to the very wealthy KING OF HELL…Easy to find this info on the internet.
Correction: Actually, it was Jim Goll and someone named Ivan (not Paul Cain) who introduced Emma into Todd’s life.