My Elijah List Experience
- Elijah List Intro: Prelude to My Story
- Elijah List 1: In the Beginning
- Elijah List 2: First Impressions Crumble
- Elijah List 3: My Experience with Todd Bentley
- Elijah List 4: Dismantling the Wall
- Elijah List 5: Mortar in the Wall
- Elijah List 6: Wicked Roots
- Elijah List 7: Lack of Discernment Has a Price
- Elijah List 8: The Next Generation
- Elijah List 9: My Way Home
- Elijah List 10: Post-Prophetic Rehab – How to Get Back On Track
“Fathers” of the Prophetic Movement
It is not my intention to pick on specific people with this next section. I am using Bob Jones and Paul Cain as examples to show that perversion and error has had a firm foothold from the roots of this movement and is being passed on directly to the “younger” generation of prophets and their followers, who revere the “older” prophets unquestioningly. Why? Because they’ve been taught to do so. It is SO EASY to just accept what you hear when it comes from a person you admire, but the consequences are great when what you hear is wrong, or worse yet … half right.
Bob Jones and Paul Cain are considered “fathers” or “high level prophets” in this movement. They have been on the scene since the 90′s and are quite well-known to the prophetic crowd. If you ask a prophet who their influences are, 95% of the time either Bob Jones or Paul Cain will come out of their mouth.
According to the Olathe Daily News (11/13/91 – “Minister removed after confession of sexual misconduct”), Bob Jones confessed to sexual misconduct with a couple women behind the closed doors of his office. I’ve read and heard a couple different reports as to what exactly went on, but I will not disclose them here as I don’t have a concrete source. The fact that it happened, and was admitted to, should be enough.
Additionally, he has been quoted as saying that God is only allowing a 66% accuracy of the prophetic word. “If I [God] release the 100% Rhema right now, the accountability would be so awesome and you’d have so much Ananias and Sapphira’s going on the people couldn’t grow.” (this was quoted on p. 68 “Beware of the New Prophets” by Bill Randles, 1999) … God forbid we have any accountability.
Even as early as February 23 of this year (2011), Steve Shultz posted on the Elijah List site
“I was honored years ago when Bob Jones came to my property. There are few prophets that I almost ‘insist’ that when they prophesy, I listen. Bob Jones is one of them. When he prophesies, I really tune in. Now, I don’t post anyone unless I trust them, mind you, but some I trust even more than others. Bob Jones is one such person. He is my friend and a high-level prophet. Tune in!”
From the above quote, you can see that Steve Shultz puts unquestioning faith in what Bob Jones says, because he is perceived by Steve (and the rest of the prophetic crowd) as “high level”.
In the exact same post, Bob Jones teaches error. He says that Elohim means “father of the remnant”. I researched that in the following site (http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elohim/elohim.html) and did not find that definition anywhere. So I decided to Google it, and guess what I found? In August of 2010, Bob Jones says Eliakim means “father of the remnant”. So which is it?
That may seem like nitpicking, and it may be a small error in the middle of a “bigger picture”, but did anybody bother to check their bible/concordance to see if it actually lines up with the Word? It, literally, only took me 5 minutes to do that research … certainly someone has 5 minutes? How many other errors like this have we swallowed because we were too busy looking to a man for guidance, and not God? These kinds of “little” errors happen all the time in the prophetic movement and no one bothers hold each other accountable.
I guess we can allow Bob this mistake because, after all, prophets are only correct 66% of the time. Let’s move on.
Paul Cain, probably most famous for his “stadium speech”, is another “high-level prophet” who is highly revered among the prophetic crowd.
When confronted by Rick Joyner and Jack Deere in 2004, Paul Cain confessed to being both a homosexual and an alcoholic. Although restoration was attempted, it was not successful. And in 2007, Mr. Cain declared anyhow that he had been “restored” to ministry and started scheduling conferences. In 2008, Paul publicly said in Lakeland that there were “false rumors” about him and that he had lived a “chaste life.”
Adding a new twist to this deception, on May 5, 2008, Paul Cain prayed over Todd Bentley at the Lakeland Revival:
“I thank you that you have answered my prayer that you have let me live to see tokens of this revival and be involved in it in some way or a participant if possible … and Lord, You have never allowed me to say that I have met the New Breed … Absolutely met the New Breed! And when you brought Todd Bentley and I together, the angel of the Lord said ‘you have found what you are looking for,’ … this is a man without guile … behold Nathaniel in whom there is no guile! … I’ve stood by the notables and the greats that had the greatest healing ministry of all times and I’ve never met anyone that has the integrity and the possibilities of leading this thing into a worldwide revival. And I just want to confer and bless … whatever I can do, … I just place to myself to hear from the Lord and to transfer and to give to my brother who has given so much to others and soo much to me, everything you have ever deposited into my life that I didn’t know how to give away I’m giving it to my brother tonight to carry on this revival until the stadiums all over the world have been, uh … catching this, have been carriers of it and taking it from one end of the world to the other and thank you I’VE MET THE NEW BREED TONIGHT.”
No wonder Todd fell through sexual sin!! Paul Cain transferred (conferred, blessed, transferred) everything that his “god” gave to him to Todd Bentley! Not too long after, after Todd committed adultery and married his new wife, the Lakeland Revival lost its steam and eventually ended.
For the Love of the Search,