Charisma Magazine and 10 Stupid Things

When a Firm Grasp of the Obvious is Missing

breathe-under-waterI may have to quit reading Charisma magazine altogether as it can really test my patience with my brothers and sisters. In a recent article by J. Lee Grady entitled “10 Stupid Things Ministers Should Never Do”, Mr. Grady lists out some sins that a minister should not do. In short, they are as follows:

  1. Take illegal drugs.
  2. Reject accountability.
  3. Beat or abuse your wife.
  4. Surround yourself with adoring fans.
  5. Fabricate spiritual gifts to impress others.
  6. Be lenient toward sexual sin.
  7. Manipulate people during the offering time.
  8. Refuse to share power.
  9. Teach exotic doctrines rather than the core truths of the Bible.
  10. Become an egomaniac.

Go ahead and click on the link above for a more elaborate explanation of each point, it’s a good read.

burn-eyesNow, I agree with what J. Lee says in this article 100% … he is definitely not wrong. But have we (the Body of Christ) really sunk THAT LOW as to have to be reminded of these points?

I have to admit, I really got exasperated while reading this article. I threw my hands up in frustration when the realization came to me that “YES, WE HAVE SUNK THAT LOW!  AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!”

Each point is so obvious … so “basic.”  It’s like trying to tell a grown man, “Hey, don’t point that gun at your face and fire … you might get hurt!” Are we really so carnal that we need to have someone tell us something so obvious?

<sigh>

Ekklesia …. God’s “Called Out Ones” …. if we really expect to see “the Great Revival” before His Return, certainly we can do better than this ….. right?

Or am I just too prideful? Do I need to calm down because someone doesn’t realize that they’re not supposed to do drugs or beat their wife? Talk to me someone …. set me straight.

For the Truth,

Kevin Kleint
Email: kevinkleint1@gmail.com

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  1. Sherry says

    I just read your article and the comments posted, and wept, not in frustration, in sorrow that such an article should even be written. How far we have fallen from the truth of God’s path of holiness and righteousness for our lives.

    The saddest part is those who are supposed to be teaching the Way, Truth and Life are the ones this article is aimed at. My heart grieves over this.

    The Way has never been wide for true followers, but the older I am the narrower it seems to get- possibly because the culture we live in has become so much more corrupt than I remember 30-40 years ago? Maybe I am just more aware of how narrow the Way actually is?

    May our Lord Jesus guide us and keep all who are His own, as we continue to follow His ways, keep us in His power, and present us spotless before our Father.

  2. says

    Wow—-must be that there are SOOOO many spiritual leaders doing these things that they have to be constantly rebuked. The spiritual state of the world’s “church” scene is truly a fulfillment of Scripture, that “wicked men will wax worse and worse.”

    Jesus said in the end, He himself will seperate the sheep from the goats (Matt. 25:32), and the wheat from the tares (Matt 13:38-40)—–but notice the tares aren’t supposed to be in the true church. These verses make it clear that the tares are out in the world, not the true church, which is supposed to be executing church discipline by the way.

    Those who belong to God are not of this world and they obviously won’t act like the world. They are the “good seed” these verses speak of.

    Yet, also according to these verses, there’ll be those who belong to the “wicked one” and naturally they will act like the world.

    • says

      I agree w/you godlee4life. We just need to be careful not to approach this concept with the preconceived idea that “the church” is inclusive of EVERYONE that names the Name of Jesus. God’s church is the “ekklesia” … the “Called out ones” …. NOT people who just happen to say “I love Jesus” and go to church on Sundays. God’s church are the ones who are called to follow Him and learn of His Ways … in fact, our obedience to those ways is the very definition of “the Love of Christ.”

      2 John 1:6 “This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.”

      Additionally, John (“the apostle of love”) says that if we say we love God and don’t obey the commandments He’s given us, we’re liars.

      1 John 2:4 “He who says, ‘I know Him,’ and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”

      Like you said, the world is going to act like the world … it’s a given. But this kind of obvious sinful behavior has no place in the church and it truly is a shame that we still need to be reminded of it.

  3. Kris Pinfield says

    No, you’re not prideful. It’s like the V-* juice ad- you hit your head – like knocking some sense into in it— as in DUH! Nothing like realizing the obvious!!! Your eyes have been open, WIDE and it’s pretty hard to take in all the landscape of unrighteousness. I have been weaned from the Kool Aid as well, and it’s quite sobering to realize what we all have accepted, and many continue to accept as acceptable behavior before the Lord. I often shutter to think how the carnal, worldly behavior of the so-called Body of Christ takes the Lord’s name in vain. I still deal with shame for blindly and gladly… and pridefully (oh, we’re so cutting edge!!!) participating in the sins of this church age. To me this whole experience is like have been on a drunken binge, participating in things that lacked proper restraint and sober boundaries, blacking out and then waking up afterwards to the reality of the whole mess. …. being appalled at it all is a normal reaction. I am truly humbled and grateful and THANK GOD for His MERCY, GRACE, FAITHFULNESS and UNFAILING LOVE that he delivered me from myself and doctrines of demons, etc. But when I read about the wackiness, I still shake my head in disbelief- how can we, who profess/confess Christ as our Lord, stray so far off the narrow path??? I hear Matthew 26:41, “Watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.”

  4. says

    “For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.” (Mark 13:22)

    “These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.” (1 John 2:26)

  5. says

    A married man in a church I attended 26 years ago told a teenager and also a divorcee that Jesus appeared to him and said they were to have sex with him. When the pastor was approached about this, he said if he said anything to the man then he wouldn’t attend anymore. Got to keep those attendance numbers up at all cost, huh?

    It seems some churches need a refresher course on #7. (Don’t manipulate people during offering time or any other time.)

    I would like to add a #11: Don’t allow Jezebel to teach her pagan doctrines among the body.

    “But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray, so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols”. Revelation 2:20

  6. Digrieze says

    I recently read the same article, and I found it equally frustrating, but perhaps for a different reason. One point Grady made was that a basic reason for this is a failure of the “apostolic” ministry in the body of Christ. I disagree. We have PLENTY of “prophets”, “apostles”, and “anointed teachers” running around the Church (and charging quite well for their services). Additionally, this is nothing really new, we’ve dealt with this problem since Marcion led his heretical group in the first century.

    I would suggest that what we have is a simple failure to call a sin a sin. The modern church speaks quickly to condemn a sin in general, but is very slow to do so when it deals with a member that tosses money in the plate every week. Conversely Wesley, who may have pioneered the modern home group / small group / cell church with his “circles”, was not shy about tossing a member out on his rump when he blatantly continued in sin and would not take reproof.

    Maybe it’s time to get a little tougher on the whole body (of whom pastors are just a small part).

    Incidentally, this comment should not be read as a condemnation of modern prophets or teachers. I am NOT a cessationist, however, I have noticed that those whom I would consider true “prophets” in the biblical sense are reluctant to take that mantle (understanding the weightiness of it), and are even less reluctant to seek after profit (prophet?) from it (perhaps from their closeness to the giver of that gift).

  7. John the Baptist the 2nd says

    We exist in the days of the fullfillment of all prophecy. Imannuel spoke of a great falling away before his return. It is, will be, and shall be so. As spoken. As far as the charisma articles Kevin , I have to agree with you , it might be better to not read them any more, but it’s difficult not to, sort of like trying to turn your eyes away from a train wreck, almost like it’s hard to believe that your eyes are really seeing what your eyes are really seeing. Blessings and joy to the Great ” I AM’s” true children that are willing to receive them.

  8. says

    Yes we have fallen that far. I posted that article on my FB page with the note that this used to be called common sense or basic Christianity. I got a whole 2 likes. LOL

  9. says

    Who says that the church and the ministry want a real revival let alone expect one? I know that some do but, from what I am experiencing and observing, I’m not so sure. I’m pretty sure that my definition of revival and that of most professing christians and leaders are worlds apart. In the last few years, I have had two prominent leaders say to me and I quote; “It’s really about learning how to compromise and get along”.

    That doesn’t sound like the spirit of authentic revival if you ask me, but who’s asking? LOL!

    • says

      Monte, I’m totally trackin’ with you. “Revival” churches have the illusion that people are going to come streaming into the church, join their congregations and experience all kinds of signs and wonders, but it simply isn’t so. The Real, non-counterfeit Move of God will rely heavily upon our willingness to walk in purity and holiness and GO!

  10. says

    Kevin,

    I can totally identify with your frustration. We have unfortunately sunk that low. I wish it was NOT true but I would be lying if I said that we hadn’t. The article by J. Lee Grady is a great article, but these ARE things that we AS MINISTERS should already know (in all honesty we DO KNOW that we should not do them).

    I even posted this article and its follow up on my Facebook site. I didn’t for various reasons, mainly that there were some of my FB friends who needed to read the article…that’s why I posted them.

    The Lord bless & keep you in this next year and years following,
    Gregg Huestis
    http://www.b2bablessing.org/blog

  11. says

    I comment on various articles on Charisma and they delete me. They have no desire for truth…they just want to sell magazines and keep a reputation of being a spirit filled news source. They are filled with the wrong spirit IMO..a deceptive ‘last days’ spirit of apostasy.

    • Melinda says

      @Escape Churchianity, I got deleted too LOL… I signed back up with a different email and name.. LOL They deleted many of my post…lol

      Some Ministers never got delivered from their druggies ways… They brought bags of stuff into their salvation and into their ministries. That’s why I’m not too quick to get into everybody prayer line and don’t allow everybody to lay hands on me…