Scriptural Proof that Bethel Church Is Harmful to You

Bethel Church Believes New Age Doctrine

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There is quite a buzz on Facebook about a recent video clip from Eric Johnson, speaking at Bethel Church (ministry of false prophet Bill Johnson), where he preaches about embracing a doctrine straight out of the New Age handbook.

** Hat tip to William Fawcett of BeyondGrace.blogspot.com and the Bethel Church and Christianity Facebook page**

According to Eric Johnson, we should consider everyone inherently “good,” even if they are not saved.

Yep, devious things are afoot in Redding, California.

The Bible clearly says:

Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Romans 5:12
So then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned.

Ephesians 2:1-3
And although you were dead in your transgressions and sins, in which you formerly lived according to this world’s present path, according to the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the ruler of the spirit that is now energizing the sons of disobedience, among whom all of us also formerly lived out our lives in the cravings of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath even as the rest…

Psalm 51:5
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

The fact that this is even allowed to be preached from the pulpit at Bethel Church is shameful and blatant heresy. Afterward, people brought up the controversial message to Eric, and he said that he stood by his words. He made no attempt to correct himself. By allowing this to be taught to young, impressionable and (obviously) naive minds, Bill Johnson and the leadership of Bethel church are just as guilty.

Bethel Church Calls Into Question Jesus’ Divinity

A few days later, Danny Silk, one of the pastors at Bethel Church, released this message in an attempt at damage control.

danny-silkJesus buried Adam’s fallen nature in the grave and rose with a new nature. This new nature, which He generously shares with us, enables us to love and live as He does. It allows us to overcome fear with love, sacrifice of our self interest, and move toward one another even when we mess up.” – Danny Lee Silk

As you can see, this is a rather weak attempt. It doesn’t really address whether or not a person is inherently “good” or “sinful” – and, from what I can see, it calls into question Jesus’ divinity. You would think this would be more than enough of an indictment against Bethel … But wait! There’s more!

Bethel Students are Encouraged to “Soak In” Dead Men’s Anointing

Bethel students and faculty are notorious for going around and laying on famous revivalists gravestones in an attempt to “soak in the anointing” or “take up the mantle” of these alleged “men of God.”

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This also is forbidden in scripture:

Deuteronomy 18:10-12
“There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.”

Research the words “divination” and “necromancer” in detail, and you will see that this is what is going on here.

One of the main supporters of this ridiculous (and dangerous) practice is John Crowder

The young and naive at Bethel (as well as the rest of the prophetic movement) absolutely ADORE this guy. He is one of the young false prophets who are even more bizarre than Todd Bentley.

Check out more of John Crowder’s videos on YouTube.com – he’s a real piece of work. So, are you still not convinced that Bethel is a tool of the enemy? Hang on  … there’s EVEN MORE!

Bethel Church is the Dwelling Place of the Controversial “Glory Cloud”

The students and congregants of Bethel Church frequently claim to see a “Glory Cloud” appearing during their worship services. Now, I’m not saying that God will never show up in a meeting, but when the Creator of the Universe manifests in our little finite world, I seriously doubt that it is to be “Ooooooh-ed” and “Aaaaaahhhh-ed” at. When God showed up in the Bible, people couldn’t even stand. Todd Friel of WretchedNetwork offers a great analysis of this phenomena.

There Is No Baby In the Bathwater

When speaking (or writing) to well meaning people, they often chime in “Yeah, but there is a lot of good … you don’t want to throw the baby out with the bathwater!!!”

Listen, the bible clearly says that signs and wonders are part of the End Time Deception where the “man of lawlessness” is made manifest.

I’m not saying that the people who follow Jesus will not do signs and wonders … they will!

But when you have a socially accepted “movement” hyping spiritual experience and downplaying (and even discrediting) the Word of our Unchangeable God … warning lights should be going off all over the place!

The Way is narrow, my friends … whenever you see a socially acceptable “gospel” … run.

Sniff … Sniff …. I smell wolves.

Learn more about what the Word of God has to say about wolves and how they operate!

For the Truth,

Kevin Kleint
Email: kevinkleint@outlook.com

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  1. John the Baptist the 2nd says

    I have always found it interesting, that in the first testament of God (Yahweh), now called the “old testament”, that while his prophets did signs and wonders such as bringing back dead, and other miracles in benefit of his people, those signs and wonders were outnumbered by the signs and wonders that they called down on the mortals of this world which brought down hardship, destruction and death. Signs and wonders have not always been ‘lovey dovey’ events such as are now promoted by ‘prophetic circles’. The following signs and wonders (torments) have been called down on this earth ( which includes the U.S. in case there are some under the delusion that u s are not included) some time ago. They are: (1) record disasters (2) unprecedented calamities (3) mind-numbing stupidity of leaders. They will and ARE bringing hardship, destruction, death to mortals on this earth. They will continue to intensify , sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly, sometimes somewhere in the middle of the preceding. Call them by any name that you or the worldly so choose. They are going to intensify . Like it or not.

  2. Melanie McGhee says

    I would like to be in contact with any former Bethel church members. I would like to have a conversation about what is going on there. A long time ago I knew Tim & Lynette Jenne, who are current members there. I am very worried about them……the signs & wonders they got into. Please contact me.

  3. Eric says

    Is there a community setup to assist people who are sucked into the “Bethel” movement? I have a friend who has been in Redding at the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry for a little over a year now. He/she had a career, family, friends, all of which were given up and neglected to follow the teachings of the Bethel School. He/she regularly updates the web with his/her experiences through the teachings, which include healing other’s injuries by placing their hands on them, references to laying on graves, etc. In addition to continuously asking for money to continue to pay for Bethel.

    I think this is an extremely dangerous direction to take in life and I hope the teachings of this movement are debunked in the long term, but in the short term people like my friend need a route out of this abyss. I understand it is my friend’s decision to stay in or get out, just curious if there are those that have experience popping the “Bethel Bubble” as I’ve heard it called.

  4. Bill Buckley says

    You guys are so religious. You speak of experiences you have not witnessed and of men of God of whom you know nothing. Please get off the internet and discover real life.

    • says

      legalist-commands

      Jude 1:3-4
      Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

      For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

  5. KG says

    Grave sucking is necromancy. This folks will get an ‘anointing’ and they get ‘sucked’ into the occult.

  6. "only God is good".....Jesus Christ says

    Matthew 19:17 (NKJV) So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. …
    Mark 10:18 (NKJV) So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
    Luke 18:19 (NKJV) So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
    I am glad you left in the audio where Eric Johnson says ” i am still processing this” ,, to me Eric seems to be
    struggling with the idea that Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS! and is using the phrase people are “good”
    as the reason why we / God should love them…. If the Holy Spirit really is at work in his life he will be lead into the truth. If not, this is the beginning of a path that can lead to terrible errors. I pray he will be saved and grow in grace and truth…. Keep up the good work Kevin may God continue to bless you,, remember that our warefare is not against flesh and blood…though i do agree with contending for the faith and the truth.. especially when preachers do not clearly correct serious errors in their preaching. Tim

  7. evelyn dinatale says

    Just found you on the web. My small prayer group and I have been through this whole prophetic movement thing and been there and done it and now the scales are falling off our eyes. We are seeing the truth now and have repented for looking to every conference and speaker for the “Breakthrough.” We are mature christians who have gone back to the basics and are incredibly free now. Thank you so much for your obedience and faithful truths that you are releasing to the body of Christ who is willing to listen and stop getting their flesh stroked. We love your articles and responses. Keep them coming Kevin ! Great job !!!!

    • Dean Agnor says

      Evelyn, I am aware that any Christian can become consumed in areas to the point of losing their focus on the basics. However, I know MANY mature believers who can embrace the prophetic while not getting consumed by the prophetic. It is the Holy Spirit that can keep us balanced. The fact is, if God is raising up Bethel to correct a church largely bereft of the prophetic, it will likely look extreme to those He means to correct. God may be simply asking a church traditionally out of balance in the absence of the prophetic to come into balance.

      • says

        Dean, respectfully, God doesn’t send “error” to correct “error.”

        “The prophetic,” according to Bethel’s definition, isn’t even in the Word. Bill Johnson and company have no clue what it means to give a correct prophecy, or how to fulfill the function of a prophet … all they know how to do is to tap into a supernatural source and give “positive and encouraging words.” This is not prophecy.

        If you base an entire movement upon a wrong definition of the words “prophets,” “prophecy” and “prophesy,” it can only lead to further deception.

        Check out these links:
        http://www.honorofkings.org/new-testament-prophets-prophecy/
        http://www.honorofkings.org/false-prophets-fruit/

        Many blessings ….

        • Dean Agnor says

          Kevin,
          The function of new testament prophecy is spelled out in I Cor 14, and Bethel practices the exact function described therein: “But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation.” Any form of the word “prophet” in the new testament, whether it be the gift, the office, or the willingness of ANY Christian to exercise such a thing in the same manner in which any Christian can evangelize is subject to the function stated above. With respect, you are sadly mistaken.

          • says

            Dean, you obviously didn’t bother to read the links I sent you. A surface-level word study would prove that your idea of “edification and exhortation and consolation” is not what the Word thinks. Look, I’ll make it easy on you … read ONE of the links I stated above.

            http://www.honorofkings.org/new-testament-prophets-prophecy/

            In this post, I go into a lot deeper study of 1 Corinthians 14, including word studies for each term. Check it out for yourself, and don’t believe what these “prophets” tell you.

            Kevin

  8. Laura says

    Wow! Thanks for sharing this. There’s a church here in Atlanta area called “Riverstone” that is directly linked to Bethel in redding. I’m glad I did my homework to research bethel. Although I have a close friend that attends there, I think the false doctrine being taught or allowed in is absolutely terrifying. It will do great harm if left as it is. Even well meaning believers can get swept up in this without realizing what’s happening. Good for you for unashamedly telling the truth.

  9. Justin says

    Hi Kevin! Grace and peace to you, sir. :)

    Please be careful with your negative blanket statements about men and women of God whom you’ve never met.

    I respect and admire the leaders of Bethel. I’ve been listening to and learning from them for years. God has really used them to impart wisdom, knowledge, and revelation in my life.

    I believe Bill’s and Kris’s hearts are inclined toward good, godly things, and that they are passionately following the Lord in loving and leading people to transform cities with the Good News of the Kingdom.

    With that said, hear me when I tell you that I do not agree with what Eric said regarding people’s “good hearts” and “general desire to do good”. I do not say this to slight him at all (since he, too, is a strong man of God) but he hasn’t been teaching for the main gathering for very long. I think there is still some growth that needs to happen in his life/theology as he practices teaching and leading on a larger scale. He’s not going to be perfect with everything right off the bat, as none of us is, so we need to extend grace as people live out their callings and giftings in a public forum.

    This inexperience doesn’t excuse him or any of the other leaders from responsibly addressing many folks’ concern over the statements. I’m just trying to speak on his/their behalf as one who is also growing in Christ and seeing my fair share of failures as I walk out what I believe I’ve been given.

    I hope this note finds you well and that no offense is taken. I just sincerely wish to convey a love for the Body of Christ, for those on both sides of the spectrum.

    Take care,

    Justin

    • says

      I do appreciate the kind tone of your comment, it is quite unlike the wisecracking I usually experience with the prophetic crowd. However, you hint at your bias from the start, in that you admit that you respect and admire Bill Johnson and company.

      I understand that we are all in a place of growth and maturing in our walk with God, but you need to understand that those who are in a place of leadership must have at least have some “basic doctrine” in place … including man’s inherent sinfulness. That’s just basic bible there.

      The fact that Bill and Kris didn’t even make an effort to correct Eric’s message ~ OR ~ their follower’s practices like lying on graves to soak up some kind of anointing or “toking the baby jesus” should give you a clue as to where their loyalties lie. If Bill and Kris had any reverence for the truth at all, they would have corrected Eric … but they didn’t. By refusing to take action against false doctrine being preached, they complicitly showed that they approved of it.

      We are at a time and place in history where Truth (which includes Jesus and the Word of God) must become our primary focus. When you focus on other things, such as signs and wonders … which are a sign of deception in the last days, you’re right on track for being led away with the deceived.

      I’m not offended at all at your comment, and welcome even those who disagree … if they’re willing to discuss things rationally. But one thing, although I haven’t met Bill or Kris, I DO know many of their kind. Remember, I was employed by the Elijah List for 7 years, and I’ve met many in this group including Todd Bentley, Bob Jones, Jim Goll, Jill Austin, Chad Taylor and many more. They all have the same philosophy and “bent” … quick to believe experience over what the Word says.

      Many blessings,

      Kevin

  10. Andre Lefebvre says

    Wow, Eric really fell down the stairs and nobody from Bethel is picking him up yet… so very sad. Another red line being crossed in America… Doesn’t make every single word and teaching that comes from Bethel false. But this doesn’t bode well if it remains unchallenged.

    Give me some good Thomas Goodwin…

    Peace,

    Andre

  11. Rebecca says

    2nd Thessalonians 2:1-12 “The Man of Lawlessness”

    “Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of The Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom The Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those that are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

    We are definitely in these end times where ‘the son of destruction is readying himself to take his seat in the temple of God,’……our present day churches…..where many of the congregation ‘refused to love the truth and be saved….therefor God sends them a strong delusion….that they may believe what is false….in order that they may all be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

  12. Wayne says

    I used to live in Zion, IL. I know of the history of Alexander Dowie. Dowie did have healing miracles at first and wheel chair and crutches were all over CCC(Christian Catholic Church- founded by Dowie- its in the center of the town), but in the latter he went insane (thinking he was Elijah the Prophet reborn- that’s what his staff was telling him). I spoke with an individual (who was in his 70’s back in the 1980’s when I spoke to him). He told me how his parents had to sign their home to one of the ministries succeeding Dowie (I think they were speaking Fred Vogler).

    John Crowder speaks abominations. No fear of God. I pray he repents and escape judgment.

    Happy Yom Teruah everyone!

  13. says

    Great write up Kevin! No matter how ridiculous Bethel gets, it seems people just eat it up. Reminds me of Romans 1 where it says that people will be given over to delusion…

    By the way…Eric said a couple of times about God being “happy.” I don’t see anywhere in Scripture where He is “happy.” I’m thinking Eric has confused “happy” with “joy”?

  14. John the Baptist the 2nd says

    Thanks for your faithfullness in being the part of Immanuel’s body that you have been called to fullfill. Iknowwhatumean.

  15. Wayne says

    Kevin,

    I appreciate your work here. I have not been to any of those meetings in decades, but I regularly come across people who fall for it. I have no idea what new abominations are being taught, but your websites help me understand what new teachings are circulating. It’s all about becoming wise to the devices of the enemy and being equipped to snatch those individuals from the unholy fire.

    Boy, I have a hard time watching some of those videos. I get so grieved in my spirit, I have to turn them off.

    Thank you and keep up the good work!